http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/heroes--villains-20100613-y5u1.html
Racism has been rife in Australia for over 200 years and Indian students haven't been exclusively subjected to it. while I support any efforts to address what is a community dividing ideology; I couldn't but somewhat react to the Victorian govt's response and concerted efforts with visits to India etc with nothing more than indignation at the display of such hypopracy and the need to respond due to revenue sources rather than addressing the real root of the problem; ignorance and bigotry. Aboriginal Victorians have been subjected to this behaviour without consequence. So the question beckons; why is racism being considered an issue only for the past decade? What about the past 200 years? Racism dose not touch one group and I would call on our Indian community members to acknowledge that they are not the sole victim here.
Marngrook | Colac - June 14, 2010, 8:47AM
You are absolutealy right. If you listen to the video of my interview I highlighted the fact about discrimination in general. One of the first thing I aspire to see is aboriginal representation in our Public institutions. Imagine having an Aboriginal head of state... However, as you pointed out, let us not forget that at this point, Indians are the new kids on the block and at a receiving end. All what we have done is articulated our pain. I am sure the Doctors amongst you will agree that sharing pain reduces it.
I hope we are moving to a new possibility of a national consensus for affirmative action.
Gautam Gupta - June 14, 2010, 12:09PM
I have no doubt that some of the attacks are racially motivated, but it's a pity the analysis doesn't go far enough. Australia is a multi-cultural society and the various migrant groups bring their own prejudices and racism.
Unfortunately the Indian press has presented this as a white Australians attacking Indians issue, when in fact many of the attacks are by gangs of youths containing an ethnic mix.
The question to ask is why this is being presented as a crime committed by white Australians? Here we discover the racism of the Indians themselves.
I've been to India and I've studied Indian philosophy. The term Aryan comes from the Sanskrit 'Arya', which means 'pure'. This is the name the higher castes call themselves, the descendants of the Indo-European migrations of the distant past. These are the people who imposed the caste system on Dravidian India and relegated the adivasi to the category of untouchable. It is a profoundly racist religious movement that glorifies pale skin and despises the 'mleccha', the darker skinned. The spoiled brats of the Arya middle-class are raised to believe they are racially and spiritually superior.
So how many Indian students are Dalit, from the untouchables? Or are many of them spoiled middle-class Arya? I've met some of these students, worked with one who still wore his sacred cord to indicate he was a Brahmin, of the highest caste. He was lazy and arrogant.
Australia is an egalitarian society. And it is especially rich for racist Indians to be calling Australians racist. They need to attend to their own prejudices.
Siddha - June 14, 2010, 9:30AM
I appreciate the effort you have made to go to India and read its rich history and culture. I am not going to argue your interpretation of Indian history but what I will highlight are some of the achievements post independence.
There are over 700 Million registered voters in India, making it the bigest democracy in the world. Less than 20% voters are non-Hindus. Within 60 years of independence India has a Sikh Prime Minister, a Muslim head of Nuclear Program, A Muslim President, the longest serving woman Prime Minsiter, a foreign born Christian Lady head of the ruling Party.
There is a whole list of affirmative action and its successes that I can describe here. However this is not what is the issue here. Two wrongs don't make a right.
This blame game is not going to alter the reality of our own backyards. When Aboriginals die behind Police vans in 2008 whom are we going to blame? Let us take ownership of our community, city and country. Let us not compete but be better from within.
Can you see Australia as the envy of the world in 2020? Can we lead the world in best practise when it comes to multi-cultural practices? Can we alter the reality for aboriginals?
Gautam Gupta - June 14, 2010, 12:20PM
If Gupta truly was concerned about the welfare of Indian students, he would have been complaining about the shocking standard of education being offered to some students. But on that issue, at least, there was not a word from him.
Whatever happened to the funds he raised to support Indian victims of crime? Was that ever distributed?
I deplore racism. However I deplore even more those who seek to benefit from it. Gupta's rhetoric does nothig to quell racism, it only inflames.
A true community representative would be organising events to help foreign students feel welcome in melbourne. Others have done that, why hasn't Gupta?
teiwaz | Richmond, VIC - June 14, 2010, 9:47AM
I welcome your question. I would like to refer you to the submission that we made to the Federal Senate Committee hearing held last year in August/September. I have personally worked on that submission and it is a comprehensive 50 page summary and has extensive examples on the poor quality of education offered to all students.
The report also highlights the quality of life issues with racism related issues taking less than 5 pages of the report. I think the mention of racism has touched an uneasy nerve whereas the other issues are acceptable. Hence we have a situation where the Government is leaving no nuts uncracked to downplay racism and introducing vague and confusing arguments such as comparing with other countries or cultures.
There are a lot of changes that have taken place and are taking place within the education sector as a consequence of the direct action that we have taken and I lead. I am sure you are keeping track of collapsed colleges and expose' of shonky operators. More will come. Keep tuned.
I am not sure what your standards for a true community leader is. Maybe I am not a community leader from your standards and I have no issues with it. But I would like to share my feelings. I feel hurt when I meet victims and share their stories.
When a young person comes and tells how we was bashed in in his house and the Police refused to register a complaint, it hurts. I chose not to sit at home and organise self-indulging events to feel good, but to spend my Christmas evening in Hospital talking to patients and taking them food parcels.
Should I advertise these things? Maybe. I will encourage you to help your fellow human beings and join FISA (Federation of Indian Students of Australia) or any other charity organisation. Help me support these victims of violence and fraud. Together we can make a difference.
I welcome you to also help me promote the social activities that we have organised and lead. Some of them include negotiations with AFL to organise camps for Indian students, organising appreciation breakfasts at Flinders St station, wotk with Cricket Australia to promte the message of harmony and lift sanctions against Australian players from participating in IPL amongst others.
Regarding the victims of crime fund, I again welcome you to enquire from the President or Secretary of FISA. To my knowledge, we had raised some $1900. Approximately $400 of which raised from Sydney for Mr Rajesh. He had sufered burn injuries when his house was petrol-bombed. The rest of the money is still avalaible. Any victim, who has not recieved any government support can simply write to FISA and those funds are then made available to assist them deal with emergencies. Now I understand that it is not a lot of money, but for poor students to raise even this amount of money speaks volumes of their character. I wish the rest of the community establish such programs as there are far too many people living on the edge that need our support and care.
Gautam Gupta - June 14, 2010, 12:41PM
Glad to see that Mr Gupta has disassociated himself from the Liberal Party. It makes them more attractive as a voting option in the coming election. Why you are giving this fraud space for his self-promotion is beyond me.
CM | Melbourne - June 14, 2010, 11:16AM
I have watched this donkey beating the racism drum to lift his profile.
If Australians are racist why have so many different people come here?
Your selfish motives are damaging Indian peoples reputation Mr Gupta.
olive - June 14, 2010, 11:16AM
Gupta couldn't pass his qualification test in the subject he received an education visa and subsequent permanent residency into Australia. Being unemployable and a poster child for the PR rort forced on the Aussie taxpayer through "skills shortages", he decided to beat the racism drum to divert the attention from his own failures. The focus should be on why these unemployable foreign students are allowed permanent residency.
Ya Ya Ya - June 14, 2010, 10:59AM
The last three questions/comments are more of a personal attack. You may not be aware, but many people do and say exactly what you guys have written. But have you actually done your research completely?
Are you aware that I was the Manager for a chain of clinics? I was the Chair of Knox Community Health Services and also was on Monashlink Board? Are you aware that I have assisted with research projects at two universities and have taught Project Management to postgraduates?
I have resigned from various positions and roles to fulfil my dream that of a dynamic society and country. This is my City and my Country. I will do whatever it takes to help it reach it full potential.
Your comments demonstrates the kind of bias you hold and I strongly encourage you to seek help. Please understand that attacking people personally may give your temporary satisfaction and feed your righteousness but overall it decreases the quality of life for everyone including yourself. Why don't you let go off your anger and really talk to me and other Indians directly and really connect. Ask them why did thousands of people gather 3 times in three years? Were they inspired by my leadership or their anger at the system?
I have found peace in helping others and trust me you will find your own game lifted once you connect with people. Be as passionate in critcising the errors in our society as you are in displaying your anger towards me.
Have you approached your local Parliamentarian to express anger when Timana Tahu surrendered his NSW Origin Jersey against racism? Did you join the rally against the death of aboriginals in custody? Did you go and support the African youth after the brutal racist killing of 17 year old young Leib Goni? Did you write a letter to Cricket Australia asking them to lift their game when Darren Lehmann was banned for five games for calling 'Black C..." to African players? Did you question The Police Commissioner when he asked Indians to look poor to be safe in Victoria? Did you write to Attorney General asking him why has no one from the Facebook groups such as 'F*** Off we are full' and others not charged for promoting violence against ethnic minorities? Have you written to Indian High Commission to apologise when a fellow Australian, a Griffith radio jockey, said 'the shit they put around their head must be doing something to their brains' - The Prime Minister of India wears a turban.
But you have taken time to challenge me for raising the issue of racism. Do you think it is easy for me when hundreds of people want to spend hours trying to prove how wrong I am but not spend 10 minutes to really find out of what I have to offer?
I welcome all of you to feel free to organise a forum and I will be happy to come and speak to all of you face to face and answer your questions. I am happy to discuss my evidence for anything I have said.
All I want is for you to consider asking yourself and your elected community leaders, be they in Church, Police, Media or Parliament on why have they not acted to stop racism?
Gautam Gupta - June 14, 2010, 1:07PM
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